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TurboTax-Quality US-Expat Tax Filing Software With Country-Pair Reconciliation for EU and Canada Filings

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A high-signal Ask HN comment by deanmoriarty named the willingness-to-pay number directly: $1k–$2k per year for software that handles American expats with American investments living in specific European countries, including the local-country filing and the income from the US investments declared abroad. The comment was followed by an emotionally vivid story showing that even a competent CPA missed a 6-figure AMT credit via Form 8801 — making the case that 'just hire an accountant' is not actually a safe answer. r/expats threads echo the same pain in the US-Canada direction, with the thread OP describing four years of workarounds to even buy TurboTax Desktop from Canada. expatfile.tax exists for the US-only side but doesn't handle the foreign-side filing or its interaction with the US filing. The market is small but the pricing power is exceptional.

builder note

Pick one country pair and go ten levels deep. Don't try to be 'expatfile.tax for everywhere' — that's how MyExpatTaxes ended up shallow. The HN commenter's revealed-preference price of $1–2k/year means a few thousand annual seats per country pair makes a real business. The Form 8801 case study in the source thread is the marketing — show the calculator that catches what their CPA missed and the conversion happens by itself. Expect 12+ months to first paying user because the legal + e-file integration on the foreign side is a slog.

landscape (5 existing solutions)

Existing software solves the US-side filing in isolation. CPAs charge a lot and miss things. Nobody has built the integrated US-plus-country-X product the HN commenter is willing to pay $1–2k a year for. The viable v1 picks one country pair (US-Germany, US-Netherlands, or US-Canada are the largest pools) and goes deep — Form 8833 treaty positions, FX reconciliation, AMT credit tracking via Form 8801, and the local-country e-file integration. That's a lot of regulatory surface area, but the willingness to pay is in line with serious B2B SaaS pricing for a B2C product.

expatfile.tax Closest current player. Handles the US-side return for expats (Form 2555, FBAR/FATCA) but does not file the foreign-country return or reconcile the two sides — the user still does the EU/CA filing separately.
MyExpatTaxes Similar scope to expatfile.tax. US side only. Generic country support, no deep per-country FX reconciliation or treaty-based credit optimization.
TurboTax (US edition) Doesn't accept foreign credit cards in many cases, doesn't model country-of-residence treaties, and explicitly does not file the foreign return.
TaxAct / OLT / FreeTaxUSA / FFFF Free or cheap US-side filers used as workarounds. Form 8801 / AMT credit carryforwards are not surfaced as wizards — the user has to know they exist.
Cross-border CPAs (Liberty Tax, KPMG Expat Services, Greenback) Charge $1k–$5k+ per filing. Expat HN commenter shows even competent CPAs miss AMT credit carryforwards and country-pair-specific treaty optimizations.

sources (3)

hackernews https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45535565 "A TurboTax-quality tax filing service for American expats with American investments who live abroad (particularly interested in a few European countries) and have to file in their country of residence and declare the income from such investments. I would pay $1-2k a year for a service like that, as I prefer to do things myself than relying on a CPA who will inevitably mess things up." 2025-10-10
hackernews https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45539795 "A few years ago, myself and other colleagues exercised some ISO in a startup we were working for. The exercise left us exposed to a steep AMT tax, it was a 6 figure tax bill... A colleague of mine, with his fancy CPA, completely missed this... I just don't use CPAs and consider the time I spent to learn my taxes well spent." 2025-10-10
reddit https://old.reddit.com/r/expats/comments/1qtez7a/us_expats_i... "We could pay an accountant but it's a really simple filing for us so would prefer to just keep using software if we can find any." 2026-01-02
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